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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

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  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

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  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  Hi LV101 - here's some screen shots of what's coming. Also Dan 1:1 says in the the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership. The little luvvies make that 3rd year 8 years long and call it his 11th year of rulership. Their maths on which 1914 sits is twaddle. You only need 7 scriptures to prove it is twaddle. The 7 scriptures are 5 from Jeremiah and 2 from Ezekiel. The hammer blow which takes them down is Eze 40:1.

  If you know the Bible well enough you'll see that Eze 40:1 is talking about the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar and 14 years after it. So the hammer blow to WT's 1914 doctrine are the numbers 19 and 14. Almighty God - He's so clever. They never stood a chance.

  
  
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  Assistance Received!--2020-August-S-147-E Announcements And Reminders! (as of 2020-08-02)

  by Atlantis in

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  someone has stepped forward to assist us.

  that sure didn't take very long!.

  2020-august-s-147-e announcements and reminders, in english and in german.. .

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  Hi Petra - when I click on the link with your picture I get advised by anti virus of malicious site attack.
  
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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  Hi LV101

  I understood the importance of the name Jehovah, however you pronounce it. He is the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The term Jehovah's Witness was lifted from the book of Isaiah by WT and used as a kind of shield. If you set yourself against the house of Jacob, potentially you can be categorised as anti-semitic.

  Also the prophecies to do with the promised seed, the Messiah, Jesus Christ come from those who really were the true prophets of YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah/God the Father/the God of Israel. So if I allowed them to disfellowship me, they could say I was opposed to people like the prophets Daniel, Ezekiel and Jeremiah. They were the very ones whose words I was sticking to! Given I knew their words so well, I knew that by their authority I could call out the GB as apostates and kick out the 1914 doctrine/seat of power. But how to do it?

  The key was to get round the Service Desk by making a password protected website with all the info the GB needed from me to see that I had a case which I was talking to them about individually - if they would engage with me. I gave them 3 months then I removed the password to make the website accessible to the congregation members. At the same time that I removed the password, I did that YouTube video. The YouTube was for congregation members pointing them to the Olam30.com website. I also sent out letters to about 50 congregation members telling them what I had done and why. Happily a number have not turned against me but they are in a difficult position. Also, the elders are in a difficult position and might have resorted to hidden disfellowshippings. They disfellowship but they don't announce it.
  

  Returning to the GB, I took it that their lack of response to me was their disassociation from Jehovah. And I informed them that this was how I would view their failure to engage. Also the prophets themselves do actually act as 2, even 3 other witnesses against the GB. Further, the words of Daniel, Ezekiel and Jeremiah have always been infront of them.
  

  Yes that leaves me as the Jehovah's Witness, or more accurately, the Christian because I was told the term 'Jehovah's Witness' was just another term for Christian - which was how I had interpreted it (regardless how others interpret it or what others have been told).

  By sticking to the words of Daniel I did not do anything unchristian, nor did I do anything anti-semitic.

  I am in the process of making another video because I have been asked to clarify the 7 scriptures that render the GB apostate. The video is taking a lot longer than I imagined but I'm getting there.

  As regards what I believe, I try to keep it simple - basic Christianity and if there are differences in how we interpret grey areas, my view is don't force people to come to your view. So long as they are safe, let 'em be. They'll enjoy reading the Bible and mulling it over as they want. Provide assistance/signposting if asked. If they have ideas that could take them into dangerous waters, try to speak tactfully to help if possible.
  

  What I don't like is when people drop things into conversations to sting the conversation and clap down freedom of Christian speech. Clamping down freedom of Christian speech is exactly what the lying Watchtower did.

  My accent is Devonian. Devon, UK. So is Christine.
  
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  The Black Goat in the JW Covid-19 Report - 2020 Governing Body Update #5

  by Oh-my-God in

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  did you notice this?

  2020 governing body update #5. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/docid-702020307_1_video.

  why do they show the black goat in the picture?

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  There's goats and there's goats.

  Sheep and goats... and... scapegoats.

  Not all goats are bad.
  

  Leviticus 16:10 . .But the goat for Azazel is to be placed living before Jehovah, for the taking away of sin, that it may be sent away for Azazel into the waste land.

  1 Peter 2:24 . . .He himself bore our sins in his own body upon the stake, in order that we might be done with sins and live to righteousness. And “by his stripes you were healed. . .

  But that video is wierd.
  
  
  
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  Did You Have Good Relationships With The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  my experience was that most jws wanted to have an elder “friend” just in case they got into any “trouble “.kinda like knowing that certain cop who might get you out of a jam.

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  of course there was another group who did everything they could to either kiss the elders’ ass or stonewall them anytime they came snooping around.. how did you and the “older men” get along?.

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  Did I have a good relationship with the elders? Well, one shook my hand as they disfellowshipped me. Is that a good relationship?
  
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  BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

  by Atlantis in

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  body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

  two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

  the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

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  Some elders are heading for nervous breakdowns. I know many have got close to the edge or gone over. But in recent years they have achieved excellence at painting themselves into a corner. Even when only using a 2inch paint brush as directed by the CO.

  Perhaps they could use a teaspoon to start digging themselves into nice big hole. Petra have you got a set of teaspoons you could lend them?
  
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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  WTWizard - I did disfellowship them. I got in first. Then they did me. But they didn't care about me df'ing them. What they got really upset about was an interview I did with an elderly sister, Christine who got disfellowhsipped for just asking the elders about the child abuse issue. That was because it showed them up as the bullies they were.

  But I wouldn't have been free to do the interview with Christine IF I hadn't df'd them first. And when I talk about disfellowshipping I mean in harmony with Jesus' instructions, not the Watchtower's version.
  

  https://youtu.be/z3xkXTvLkvI

  https://youtu.be/zqoSR4ZdKPU
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  BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

  two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

  the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

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  And thank you from me too Petra and Atlantis.
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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  If you are in the know, you know so and so is df'd. You have to be part of a secret clique to get the correct info.

  But like I said waiting for confirmation.

  Ah Finkelstein - is this the new headship arrangement?